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Si consideramos que el short stop es una posición eminentemente defensiva y tomamos en cuenta sólo a los que tuvieron 10 o más años en plan defensivo estelar en esa posición (dentro de los cinco primeros en su liga en RF/G en cada temporada), los diez mejores short stops (en orden de WAR acumulados en su carrera) son los siguientes:

1. Honus Wagner
2. Cal Ripken
3. Luke Appling
4. Ozzie Smith
5. Luis Aparicio
6. Joe Tinker
7. Dave Bancroft
8. Omar Vizquel
9. Rabbit Maranville
10. David Concepción

En orden cronológico, los mejores de cada época son entonces los siguientes:

1902: Joe Tinker
1903- 1916: Honus Wagner
1917- 1928: Dave Bancroft
1929- 1930: Rabbit Maranville
1932- 1947: Luke Appling
1956- 1968: Luis Aparicio
1970- 1977: David Concepción
1978- 1981: Ozzie Smith
1982- 1991: Cal Ripken
1992- 2007: Omar Vizquel

Si quisiéramos llenar el vacío entre 1948 y 1955, podríamos poner a Eddie Joost (1948- 1951) y a Roy McMillan (1952- 1955), aunque el Chico Carrasquel también fue un short stop muy destacado entre 1952 y 1955. Y entre 2008 y 2010 el mejor ha sido Troy Tulowitzki.


   
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La lista es solo de WAR defensivos o toma en cuenta la ofensiva? porque una lista de SS de todos los tiempos sin Vaughan, Larkin, Trammell y Jeter es muy relativa.


   
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Manuel:

Los WAR que consideré son los WAR totales, pero el asunto requiere una explicación. Si tomamos en cuenta solamente los WAR totales acumulados por cada short stop durante su carrera, el top 10 seria: Wagner, A-Rod, Davis, Ripken, Yount, Vaughan, Jeter, Appling, Larkin y Trammel. Pero no todos ellos sobresalieron defensivamente como short stops, sobre todo durante varias temporadas.

Por eso hice un ejercicio distinto, que fue determinar primero quienes habían tenido una larga carrera defensiva sobresaliente como short stops, limitándome a los que por 10 años o más habían sobresalido en la defensa de la posición. Así encontré que Honus Wagner fue un excelente defensor de la posición desde 1903 hasta 1916 (14 temporadas), pero Alex Rodríguez sólo destacó como short stop defensivo durante tres temporadas (2000- 2002) si tomamos en cuenta el RF/G, y podríamos agregar 1996 y 2003 si tomamos en cuenta también TZ; es decir, tuvo sólo 5 o 6 buenas temporadas defensivas como short stop. George Davis también tuvo sólo 8 buenas temporadas defensivas como short stop. Así fui descartando hasta quedarme con Wagner, Ripken, Appling, Smith, Aparicio, Tinker, Bancroft, Vizquel, Maranville y Concepción.

De los otros que mencionas, Vaughan destacó defensivamente en 9 temporadas (1932- 1940), Larkin en 6 temporadas (1988-1992, 1994, 1996), Trammell en 5 temporadas según RF/G y en 7 según TZ, 9 en total (1978, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1989, 1991 y 1994) y Derek Jeter sólo en 2 temporadas (2004- 2005).

Por supuesto, el criterio es muy discutible y se pueden utilizar otras bases, pero lo que quise fue destacar que, por ser una posición tan importante desde el punto de vista defensivo, un buen short stop no sólo debe tener muchos WAR acumulados sino que también debe haber tenido una carrera exitosa, durante bastante tiempo, desde el punto de vista defensivo.

Si queremos ser muy estrictos, creo que Honus Wagner, Cal Ripken y Luke Appling son los que califican tanto desde el punto de vista defensivo como el ofensivo como los mejores short stops de la historia del béisbol.


   
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Buscando lo que opinan otros sobre los mejores short stops en la historia del béisbol, consulté thebaseballpage.com, baseball.about.com, bleacherreport.com y Bill James, además de tomar en cuenta los WAR acumulados durante la carrera. Si bien la mayoría de los fuentes coincide en más o menos los 12 o 13 mejores, los nombres más frecuentes en el top 10 de todas las listas son los siguientes:

Honus Wagner
Alex Rodríguez
Arky Vaughan
Cal Ripken
Barry Larkin
Derek Jeter


   
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Esta me parece una tremenda lista aunque resiento que Concepcion no esta considerado en ella cuando deberia figurar en la ultima decena listada. El rticulo lo pueden encontrar aqui
http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2010/12 ... stops.html

"The Platoon Advantage
Wednesday, December 8, 2010
40 Greatest Shortstops
By The Common Man

Because the Respendent Jeter deserves to be honored (often with a pilgrimage to hear him hold forth on matters great and insignificant), The Common Man presents the companion to his earlier piece on the 40 greatest Yankees with this look at the 40 greatest shortstops.

A couple of notes about methodology first, however. One, if a player spent more than half of their career at another position, he is not included on this list with the exception of Ernie Banks (because, c'mon, it's Ernie Banks). Also, all statistics are based on career totals and value, not on time spent specfiically at SS. So, Robin Yount, for instance, gets credit here for all of his career, not just his time in the infield. Frankly, it was easier this way, rather than trying to parse and split hairs. If TCM ever updates this list, he may revise his methodology, as that would seem to be a legitimate criticism of the rankings. So without further delay:

40) Jay Bell (.265/.343/.416, 101 OPS+, 195 homers, 34.8 WAR)

Before his major league career began, Jay Bell was traded with three other players for Bert Blyleven. In 1986, he got called up at the end of September and started the last five games for the Indians. In his first at bat, he hit the first pitch he saw for a solo home run. The pitcher was Bert Blyleven. Bell was always a perfectly decent hitter, especially for a shortstop. But in 1999 he had one of those seasons that stick out like a sore thumb in a PED era. He hit 38 homers (he never hit more than 21 in any other season, and slugged .557 for the NL West champion Diamondbacks, posting a 131 OPS+ that was way out of line with the rest of his career. Part of the offensive increase was undoubtedly related to his move to the desert, but it’s incredibly hard to reconcile that season with the rest of his career. In his prime he was a very strong defender at short, and was considered a team leader in both Pittsburgh and Arizona. (Update: The more TCM thinks about it, and the more he talks it over with Bill, the more TCM regrets going down this line of inquiry at all. Bell was a fine player who has never been suspected of PED use. And, frankly, it's incumbent on TCM to find something more interesting to say about him. As Bill pointed out to The Common Man a few minutes ago, fluke seasons happen. How about this instead: Can you believe that someone once paid Jay Bell $8 million a year to play baseball? Wow, the early 2000s were crazy with the spending.)

39) Rico Petrocelli (.251/.332/.420, 108 OPS+, 210 homers, 35.6 WAR)

Rico spent almost as much time at 3B as SS, so he barely qualifies for this list. Before researching Petrocelli, The Common Man admittedly didn’t know much about him. But this story makes TCM like him a lot, since The Uncommon Wife just got out of the hospital due to a staph infection. In 1966, Petrocelli was married with an infant son and one day his wife gets a terrible pain. She urges him not to miss the game, and sends him to the ballpark. Petrocelli sits there and stews, and by the 8th inning he’s about to burst. So he just leaves with two innings to go. “I was wrong, I should have stayed. I was stupid and just lost my head, but I left and when I walked in my door there was Elsie on the stairs. She was lying on the floor. I took her to the hospital and they said she’d had a cyst that had just broken.” The next day, Herman reported to Tom Yawkey, “[Manager Billy] Herman was in with him and I apologized to him, but he took me down to his office and told me he was fining me and when he told me how much ($1,000 of Petrocelli’s $10,000 salary), God, I almost died.”

Herman apparently hated Petrocelli. That summer, just before Herman was fired, he told reporters, “If I’m fired, it’s because of Petrocelli. If he hadn’t quit on us, we’d have won 10 more games." In other news, Billy Herman sounds like a real ass.

38) Donie Bush (.250/.356/.300, 91 OPS+, 406 stolen bases, 37.2 WAR)

Bush averaged about 96 walks a year. That’s remarkable, especially for someone with absolutely no power. It helped that he was only 5’6”. Think of him as the player everybody thinks David Eckstein is. Bill James wrote in his New Historical Abstract that Bush was absolutely terrible about turning the double play. “For the thirteen seasons that Bush was their regular shortstop, the Tigers were almost 300 double plays below expectation.” Later, James writes

“Bush’s career was during an era of rapidly increasing double plays. An average team when Bush broke in would turn about 85 double plays per season. Bush apparently never adjusted; he continued to think about ‘being sure you get one,’ which was the prevailing idea at the beginning of his career. It cost him dearly, because in modern baseball you can’t win if you can’t turn two.”

37) Dick Bartell (.284/.355/.391, 96 OPS+, 442 doubles, 34.4 WAR)

Nobody liked Bartell all that much. He never stayed anywhere longer than a few years before he wore out his welcome. In 1940, in a challenge trade for Billy Rogell, Bartell was sent to the Tigers. He had a bad season offensively, though was lauded for his play until the World Series. In the seventh inning of Game 7, Frank McCormick was on second base when Johnny Ripple doubled off the right field wall. From the AP game recap the next day,

“McCormick, figuring the ball might be caught, held second until he saw it hit safe, and then tore for third. Campbell made a quick recovery in right and whipped the ball to Bartell in the vicinity of second base. It would have been a cinch to cut McCormick down at home. But for some reason…Bartell just caught the ball and examined the seams and looked at Ripple, who just reached second.”

Rippel then came around to score with 2 outs and the Tigers lost by a run. Bartell was labeled the series goat in the press, though his team said nothing. The next year, Bartell started out just 2 for 12 in his team’s first five games before being benched for more than a month. Eventually, he was released and the Giants picked him up and he posted 120 OPS+ the rest of the way and revived his career. Rowdy Richard missed two seasons at the tail end of his career to World War II.

36) Alvin Dark (.289/.333/.411, 98 OPS+, 126 homers, 38.5 WAR)

Dark made the unusual move of going straight from his playing career to the manager’s seat. He retired from the field after 1960 and was named manager of San Francisco before November. He was terrifically successful, winning 85 games and finishing 3rd. In 1962, he piloted the Giants to 103 wins and the World Series. Dark probably got a late start on his career due to World War II, though he still spent all of 1947 in the minors.

35) Tony Fernandez (.288/.347/.399, 101 OPS+, 414 doubles, 246 stolen bases, 39.6 WAR)

The Dominican Republic is known as the land of shortstops. It’s just that so many of them are really the same all field, no hit models, and not very good players. The first Dominican SS, Roberto Pena, debuted as early as 1965, and became a regular (in the familiar no hit, all glove mode) as a 31 year old in 1968. And a few shortstops debuted in the mid-70s, similar players like Frank Taveras, Mario Guerrero, and Alfredo Griffin. But the trend didn’t really begin in earnest until the 1980s when guys like Rafael Ramirez, Julio Franco, Rafael Belliard, Jose Uribe, Manny Lee, Mariano Duncan, and Tony Fernandez came up. Franco and Fernandez, really, were the only players in that group to have any offensive success, and both put their games together more or less at the same time in 1985. Since then, Juan Bell, Andujar Cedeno, Neifi Perez, Deivi Cruz, and Ramon Santiago have done little to dispel the stereotype. Indeed, given that Franco had to move off of SS relatively quickly, the only real offensively acceptable shortstops to come out of the Domincan have been Fernandez and Miguel Tejada. That’s a pretty sad track record for one of the hotbeds of baseball talent in the world, and perhaps speaks to a counterproductive emphasis on defense to the detriment of offense as part of the training in Dominican academies.

34) Ed McKeon (.302/.365/.417, 114 OPS+, 324 stolen bases, 40.0 WAR)

Bill James ranks Ed McKean as “the weakest defensive player listed among the top 100 shortstops.” And it’s true that McKean was one of the least sure-handed players in baseball history. Among players with more than 3000 plate appearances, McKean ranks 251st out of 264 in fielding percentage. Fielding percentages were much lower in the 19th century, of course, but McKean combined that with an apparent lack of range as well. But a 114 OPS+ from your shortstop covers up a lot of problems, and McKean’s teams all finished with winning records after 1892, so the tradeoff must have been worth it.

33) Roger Peckinpaugh (.259/.336/.335, 86 OPS+, 40.4 WAR)

No one has ever had a worse World Series than Roger Peckinpaugh had in 1925. Named AL MVP just before the Series, Peck made the voters look bad by hitting just .250/.280/.417 while making 8 errors in 7 games, including two crucial mistakes in Game 7 that led to four unearned runs and gave Pittsburgh the game and the Series. However, if he’s to be believed, a bad call two days earlier extended the Series and took Peck from hero to goat. On October 13, with his team up 3 games to 2, Peck helped put the Senators up 2-0 after he doubled in Ossie Bluege. In the bottom of the third, Eddie Moore led off with a walk when Max Carey hit a grounder to short. The next day, Peckinpaugh wrote a syndicated article that describes what he believes happened,

“Umpire Moriarty yesterday missed one at a critical time which beat us, and for this reason, I cannot help but mention it….On Carey’s grounder to me, I beat Eddie to second, by a full step, yet he was called safe. Naturally my arguments over the decision were just so much wasted words. Cuyler’s sacrifice moved both runners along, one scoring on an infield out and the other on Traynor’s single, after Barhart had grounded to Bluege. Had we got this decision-which we were entitled to, neither would have scored.”

Peckinpaugh was not charged with an error on the play, which was called a fielder’s choice, though he did make a throwing error later that game. The next day, he, Muddy Ruel, and Bucky Harris (all of whom had been quoted in the article) were called before Moriarty and Judge Landis, who demanded an apology. It’s not clear whether they did or not, nor is it clear that Peck’s right about the play in question. Either way, wouldn’t it be nice to have had instant replay?

32) Miguel Tejada (.287/.339/.462, 110 OPS+, 300 homers, 447 doubles, 42.0 WAR)

Tejada’s allegedly going to play shortstop again this year, which is a little like saying the Italian army is going to be defending Southern Europe. Technically, they’re both going to be in position, but if there is any kind of urgent need, neither has a hope of performing as advertised. Tejada was a great player for exactly one season, but not the year he won the AL MVP. However, he was consistently good for eight straight seasons and has been incredibly durable, having played fewer than 156 games just once in the last 12 seasons. Despite what may be a rough season in San Francisco this year, he’s capable of pushing up five more spots on this list by the end of 2011. As far as TCM knows, he's the only man on this list who's been guilty of perjury.

31) Nomar Garciaparra (.313/.361/.521, 124 OPS+, 229 homers, 42.6 WAR)

Remember the big three? God, Nomar was good. Through 2000, Nomar had played four full seasons and had hit .333/.382/.573 (a 140 OPS+), while playing completely acceptable defense at SS. That wrist injury in 2001 left him a great player where there had once been a transcendent one. He and Jeter were the same age, and Jeter had hit .322/.394/.468 (a 122 OPS+) through that stage while giving back runs at short. Had his wrist held, and A-Rod moved to 3B as he did, Nomar might be considered one of the four or five best shortstops ever. Just an amazing and deadly player.

30) Art Fletcher (.277/.319/.365, 100 OPS+, 42.8 WAR)

Don’t let the low raw numbers fool you, for the Deadball Era, Fletcher was a heck of a weapon for John McGraw. He was a strong fielder who could hold his own offensively thanks, in part, to a willingness to take one for the team. Fletcher led the NL in HBP in five of six seasons from 1913-1918. Fletcher was traded from the Giants to the Phillies in 1920 for Dave Bancroft. The trade was a disaster for Philadelphia. Bancroft went on to lead the Giants to the 1921 Series, and Fletcher retired after the 1920 season ostensibly to look after the death of his father and brother (though the prospect of playing for a 103 loss team probably wasn’t very appealing). He did come back to play in 1922, but the Phillies, as they would be for years to come, were terrible.

29) Omar Vizquel (.273/.338/.354, 83 OPS+, 2799 hits, 43.1 WAR)

Omar Vizquel is currently 201 hits away from 3000. That boggles the mind. If he makes it, he will have the lowest batting average, lowest on base percentage, and lowest slugging percentage of any player on the list. He will have fewer home runs than any player on the list than Eddie Collins and maybe Napoleon Lajoie (who’s still 2 ahead of Omar). Omar Vizquel is engaged in a war of attrition to make it to the Hall of Fame, and he appears to be winning. The Common Man cares very little for whether he makes it or not (though if he does make it, TCM prays that Barry Larkin and Alan Trammell will too); but if he does, Vizquel will almost certainly be the worst shortstop in history to make it. His defensive skills, while rightfully lauded in his prime, are grossly overstated today. The man could not hold a candle to Ozzie Smith. Nor was he as good as Cal Ripken or Phil Rizzuto.

28) Travis Jackson (.291/.337/.433, 102 OPS+, 135 homers, 43.3 WAR)

If Omar’s going to slide past anyone to avoid the ignominy of being the worst SS in the hall, it’s Jackson. Which is not to disparage Jackson. He was a fine shortstop. In his prime he was a great defender, and produced above average offense. But the era in which he played was full of high offense guys, and Jackson’s career was done by the time he was 32. In the early ‘30s, Jackson’s left knee started bothering him, culminating in a broken tibia that required significant surgery after the 1932 season. And he missed most of both 1932 and 1933, which would have been prime seasons for him. He never really recovered his range of motion afterwards and was released after an abysmal 1936.

27) Vern Stephens (.286/.355/.460, 119 OPS+, 247 homers, 1174 RBI, 43.5 WAR)
Stephens was at the middle of one of the more interesting challenges to baseball’s monopoly in 1946. Upset at the contract offered by the St. Louis Browns, Stephens spurned the Browns to sign a contract with a team in the Mexican League. He played two games before returning to the States, saying “It was like a concentration camp in Mexico, everyone going around with six-shooters on the hip….The low caliber [of play] and the high altitudes in Mexico just got me down. So did the ‘no spika da English’.” Vern Stephens, ladies and gentlemen.

Anyway, promoter Jorge Pasquel angered baseball officials enough that the New York Yankees and Giants attempted to get an injunction preventing Pasquel from contacting their players. Pasquel counter-sued and proclaimed that MLB contracts were “monopolistic, unconscionable, illegal, and against public policy.” Players signing such contracts, Pasquel argued to the New York Superior Court, were “in peonage for life.” Yankees counsel Mark Hughes rolled out the usual arguments that “the great American game as we know it will be destroyed” if the contracts were found illegal. For reasons that, TCM can’t figure out, the judge disagreed with Pasquel’s arguments and enjoined the Mexican League from contacting Major League players.

26) Herman Long (.277/.335/.383, 94 OPS+, 537 stolen bases, 1456 runs, 44.6 WAR)

A direct contemporary of McKean (see above), Long had much the same trouble holding onto the ball (again, largely because of the era). But he had much more range than McKean, and his teams tended to be better, winning five pennants in the 1890s. McKean was the better hitter though.

25) Bert Campaneris (.259/.311/.342, 89 OPS+, 649 stolen bases, 45.2 WAR)

That’s right, Bert Campaneris is better than Omar Vizquel. He was just a much better hitter and baserunner. In 1977, Campy signed as a free agent with the Texas Rangers for just short of a million dollars a year over five years. The club was terrifically successful that year, winning 94 games and finishing 2nd to the Royals. It was an 8 game difference, but surely they could have made up some of that ground had they not made Bert Campaneris sacrifice himself 40 times, more than any other player has sacrificed himself since 1929. Of those, 34 came from June 28 on, when Billy Hunter took over the club. Hunter, as TCM has pointed out before was a terrible hitter who undoubtedly thought every shortstop was a bad hitter and needed to move runners up. After all, that’s basically all a guy with a 53 career OPS+ was good for. Over a full season, that works out to a 59 sacrifice pace, which would have the third highest total ever. Billy Hunter went 60-33 for the Rangers that year. How well would he have done if he hadn’t given away more than a game of outs by his million dollar SS?

24) Jim Fregosi (.265/.338/.398, 113 OPS+, 151 homers, 46.1 WAR)

Jim Fregosi deserves to be more than an historical footnote to Nolan Ryan’s career. He made the All Star team 6 times in 7 years, and was a good offensive player given his era. Bill James thought, if he had played in the ‘90s, he would have hit 30 homers a year. That’s probably an exaggeration, but he would have had a Nomar-lite career. In 1971, Fregosi developed a sore foot. Sent home for examination, Fregosi was startled when doctors discovered a nauroma, or “a tumor on the nerve ending between the big toe and the second toe.” That sounds incredibly painful. But he refused to get surgery on it until July, and basically never recovered. He never got more than 400 PAs again.

23) Hughie Jennings (.312/.391/.406, 118 OPS+, 359 stolen bases, 46.4 WAR)

Hughie Jennings is one of The Common Man’s favorite players from the early days of baseball. He was a terrific defensive shortstop, infectiously enthusiastic, indifferent to the rules, and incredibly adept at getting hit by pitches, including 143 times in a three year span. One has to conclude that that probably contributed to the early end of his career, as his skull was fractured three times. Knowing what we know now about concussions and head injuries, it’s likely that all the shots to the head contributed to Jennings’ drinking and relatively early death (at 59).

22) Dave Bancroft (.279/.355/.358, 98 OPS+, 46.4 WAR)
Bancroft picked a great time to have the best four seasons of his career. Bancroft raised his game to a new level after being traded to the Giants for Fletcher, and the Giants corresponded by making it to the World Series in each of the next three seasons, winning two of them. Bancroft was terrible in all three series, hitting .172/.220/.183 in more than 100 plate appearances. He also picked a great time to be a Giant, as Frankie Frisch was there and is largely responsible for Bancroft making the Hall of Fame. Bancroft wanted to be a manager, so he was traded to the Braves after 1923 and was their player/manager for four years. In 1930, he returned to the Giants and served as the interim manager whenever John McGraw was too sick, but team owner Horace Stoneham had no confidence in Bancroft as a manager long term. When McGraw retired, he named Bill Terry as his successor. Bancroft was, understandably, disappointed and he resigned.

21) Joe Sewell (.312/.391/.413, 108 OPS+, 2226 hits, 48.4 WAR)

For someone who never struck out (114 times in 14 seasons), Joe Sewell was definitely not flailing away at the plate. What’s most remarkable about Sewell is not necessarily that he had 7 seasons with fewer than 10 strikeouts, but that in those seasons he managed a BB/K ratio of more than 10 to 1. This includes an incredible 18.7 to 1 ratio in 1932 when he struck out just 3 times in 576 PAs, and walked 56 times. That’s crazy.

20) Joe Tinker (.262/.308/.353, 96 OPS+, 336 stolen bases, 49.2 WAR)

So much for the notion of team chemistry. Tinker and Evers famously didn’t talk for a year. And Evers had the reputation as “The Crab,” but Tinker wasn’t exactly a barrel of monkeys either. In 1914, Tinker was made the player/manager of the Reds. It was his first gig. It did not go well. The team finished 64-89 and in 7th place. And Tinker and the team president feuded more or less constantly. Tinker took his grievances to the press in August,

“I realize that I must take a stand with regard to the management of this club or step down and out. The showing of the team has been a great disappointment to all concerned, and I have held off as long as I could because I felt that I am not a success myself, so far as I have gone; that the club has not been making money, owing to its low standing in the race, and therefore that it was up to me to stand for some things that I would not otherwise have endured. But when I found that our players were being sold outright to minor league clubs without options, and that I was constantly being urged to cut off players against my best judgment without waiting for a chance to make a trade which would help the team, I decided that I must make a stand.

If this statement does not meet with the approval of President Herrmann I can’t help it, and he as the right to let me out at any time. I would rather go out to my fruit farm in Oregon than try to handle a club when I am not backed up by the owners. So long as I continue manager, I shall not let another player go unless I know just what the deal is. I greatly admire and respect President Herrmann personally, but his ideas of building up a ball club do not correspond with mine.”

The Reds arranged to release him to the Dodgers after the season, but Tinker jumped to the new Federal League where he would have total control of his Chicago club.

19) Luis Aparicio (.262/.311/.343, 82 OPS+, 2677 hits, 506 stolen bases, 49.9 WAR)

Today, you’ll often hear about players from Venezuela living with the threats that their loved ones will be kidnapped and held for ransom. This is not a new problem. During Spring Training in 1973, Aparicio went through the same thing. According to the Pittsburgh Press, “Police in Maracaibo, Venezuela, are keeping the 15-year-old son of Luis Aparicio under constant guard because of threats that he would be kidnapped, the Boston Red Sox star says….’I’m not only worried about him, but I worry about everybody. I’ve got four more (children) at home…. The police don’t know who is doing it or why they’re doing it, outside of the money.’” He was making roughly $100,000 at the time. Luis still had a solid season, but retired and returned to Venezuela immediately after it was over. Can you blame him?

18) Phil Rizzuto (.273/.351/.355, 93 OPS+, 41.8 WAR)

Does Phil Rizzuto deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? If Rizzuto hadn’t missed three years due to World War II, he would have topped 50 WAR standing on his head. Here’s the list of eligible modern shortstops with more than 50 wins above replacement who aren’t in the Hall of Fame: Alan Trammell (who belongs) and Barry Larkin (who will probably get in this year). That’s it. Rizzuto was better than Aparicio, Tinker, Sewell, Bancroft, Jennings, and Travis Jackson. While that is admittedly the bottom tier of the Hall of Fame, it makes The Common Man much more comfortable with Scooter’s inclusion, especially given his contributions to the game as a whole off the field.

17) Lou Boudreau (.295/.380/.415, 120 OPS+, 385 doubles, 56.0 WAR)

Boudreau got named the Indians player-manager at 24 years old, after just two good Major League seasons. It was a little as if Andrew McCutchen was named manager of the Pirates this offseason. The results were predictably mixed. He finished above .500 in six of his nine seasons in charge of the Tribe, and won a World Series when he was paired with the risk-taking Bill Veeck as the team’s owner in 1948. Veeck brought in Larry Doby and Satchel Paige, and traded for Joe Gordon and Gene Bearden. His relationship with Paige was complicated. Boudreau tried to run a tight ship, and Satchel had a strong independent streak. Satchel wouldn’t run, violated curfew, and refused to ride the bus with the team. At the same time, his pitching was pretty terrific, particularly in 1948, and he always called Boudreau, who was 11 years younger, Mr. Lou. It was a weird relationship, and one probably more or less “colored” by the era in race relations in which it was developed.

16) Jack Glasscock (.290/.337/.374, 111 OPS+, 372+ stolen bases, 1164 runs, 58.7 WAR)

Jack Glasscock.

Done snickering? No? Take your time. Now? Good.

Anyway, Bill James has Glasscock ranked as the 43rd best SS in history. That’s probably the biggest disparity between his list in the New Historical Baseball Abstract and this list. Bill calculates that “Pebbly Jack” deserved four Gold Gloves between 1880 and 1890, and it’s clear he was one of the more careful fielders of his day. He got his nickname by making sure that his portion of the infield was as free of rocks and stones that could alter the path of the ball as possible. Coupled with some truly strong offense at his position, it’s hard to tell why James discounted him so heavily. According to Harold Seymore, Glasscock was considered a traitor to the Brotherhood of Players who were organizing the Player’s League. Oddly, he had jumped to the Union Association in 1884, and perhaps soured by that experience, saw little chance in the Players Revolt succeeding.

15) Bobby Wallace (.268/.332/.358, 105 OPS+, 2309 hits, 1121 RBI, 60.5 WAR)

Bobby Wallace’s career spanned 25 years. He started out in 1894 for the old Cleveland Spiders before becoming the first superstar of the St. Louis Browns. He was a very strong fielder, who old-timey pitcher Bob Wickard said, “covered more ground than the great Hans Wagner, and got the ball away to the base faster than any other infielder of his time.” He also was a strong hitter playing a premium defensive position. It’s unclear what spurred his induction into the Hall of Fame in 1953, though he certainly seems deserving by these metrics.

14) Joe Cronin (.301/.390/.468, 119 OPS+, 170 homers, 2285 hits, 515 doubles, 1233 runs, 1424 RBI, 62.5 WAR)

It’s widely known, of course, that Joe Cronin was Clark Griffith’s son-in-law when he was dealt in 1934. What’s generally forgotten is that Cronin had been married to Griffith’s niece (who Griffith had adopted) just weeks before the sale. Must have been a disappointing reception. Cash bar. Macarena. Etc.

Cronin initially came up as a middle infielder with the Pirates during their great run in 1927, but was allegedly benched for making three errors in the field. Baseball Reference has no evidence of those errors, so it’s unclear what’s going on here, but Cronin didn’t start another game until the very last one of the season.

Here The Common Man needs some reader help. Cronin was generally considered an excellent fielder in his early career, with good range. TCM remembers reading somewhere that during the course of his career Cronin adopted the curious habit of always dropping to one knee to field the ball, which angered his teammates (particularly his pitching staff). His range did seem to decrease upon his trade to the Red Sox, but his double plays remained relatively steady. Anybody who can confirm this for TCM would get a big acknowledgement here.

13) Ernie Banks (.274/.330/.500, 122 OPS+, 512 homers, 2583 hits, 1636 RBI, 64.4 WAR)

The Common Man is totally cheating here, since Banks actually played just over 100 games more at 1B in his career. But, come on, Ernie Banks is a shortstop.

Banks is, of course, much beloved as the long-suffering, always-smiling Mr. Cub, who always wanted to be playing baseball. But for much of the offseason between 1962 and 1963, Banks was in the running for another job, Chicago Alderman. Running as a Republican and on a platform of promoting youth activities and reducing juvenile delinquency, Banks was considered “an intelligent, public spirited citizen” and a “promising young leader” by the Chicago Tribune. The Tribune also pointed out “there are many like him in the new and rapidly growing Negro middle class who would like to run for office and are not yet committed to the Democratic party.” Chicago Republicans did not welcome him, ostensibly on the grounds that he was not a member of the 8th Ward GOP group, favoring instead the very white Gerald Gibbons. Banks refused to bow out, saying “Politics is a strange business—they try to strike you out before you get a turn at bat. I am in this and—with or without the support of the Republican 8th ward organization—I intend to win.” It was not to be, as Banks lost to the incumbent in a landslide, by more than 4 to 1.

12) Ozzie Smith (.262/.337/.328, 87 OPS+, 2460 hits, 580 stolen bases, 1257 runs, 64.6 WAR)

For what was surely a very short period, Ozzie Smith was the highest paid player in baseball. Ozzie’s contract was set to expire after 1985, and The Wizard was said to be seeking somewhere around $12.5 million over five years and a potential beer distributorship from the Busche family. Negotiations were not going well, and there was a good chance he would be traded during the season (which would have made this moment impossible). Instead, Ozzie budged off his demands, and accepted a four-year deal for more than $2 million per season. His agent told reporters, “In terms of dollars and cents, it makes him the highest paid player. I think the highest contracts are [Mike] Schmidt and [George] Foster at $2 million. Ozzie’s contract…is in excess of $2 million.”

11) Alan Trammell (.285/.3528/.415, 110 OPS+, 2365 hits, 185 homers, 66.9 WAR)

Trammell’s 1984 postseason has to be one of the greatest October performances of all time. In 8 games and 37 plate appearances, hit .351/.500/.806 with a double, a triple, three homers, 9 RBI, 7 runs, and a stolen base. A terrific player for a long time. 20 years. Doesn’t it seem like his career was much shorter?

10) Barry Larkin (.295/.371/.444, 116 OPS+, 2340 hits, 1329 runs, 198 homers, 449 doubles, 379 stolen bases, 68.9 WAR)

It is remarkable that Barry Larkin managed to accumulate so much value, despite playing an average of just 115 games a season. Larkin came up in 1986 with fellow rookie SS Kurt Stillwell. Stillwell had been the 2nd overall pick in the 1982 draft, and advanced steadily through the Reds organization despite not really hitting. Larkin was the 4th overall pick in 1985, debuted in AA and destroyed AAA pitching before earning his promotion. Stillwell hit .229/.309/.258 while Larkin put up a .283/.320/.403. Stillwell actually outhit Larkin in 1987, but the Reds had seen enough to know who the good bet was. They foisted Stillwell on the Royals and got a 23 win season from Danny Jackson for their trouble.

Larkin is generally lauded for remaining a Red for his entire career, but the team did try to deal him during 2000 to the Mets, who were offering Alex Escobar (a huge prospect at the time), and two minor league pitchers. In the end, Larkin refused the deal and stayed with his hometown team because the Mets wouldn’t give him a contract extension. The Reds did, though, giving him $9 million a year over the next three seasons, a move that turned out disastrously for them. The Mets got Mike Bordick instead, who would hit .121 in the postseason to help the Mets lose to the Yankees, and gave up Melvin Mora to do it. Nobody won…except Barry Larkin.

9) Derek Jeter (.314/.385/.452, 119 OPS+, 2926 hits, 1685 runs, 468 doubles, 234 homers, 323 stolen bases, 70.1 WAR)

In 1992, as TCM previously mentioned, the Astros decided not to pick Jeter with the #1 overall pick and he fell to 6th overall. Jeter has a better WAR than every player taken 1-21 in that draft combined. You could actually make a pretty amazing team out of guys drafted 6th overall. Terry Kennedy would catch and John Mayberry would play 1B. Jeter, of course, would take SS, which would allow Gary Sheffield to slide over to 3B. Barry Bonds can handle LF handily, while former teammate and preferred face of the Pirates Andy Van Slyke glides across center. And Kevin McReaynolds can take RF. Zack Greinke would need to pitch every game until Ricky Romero proves himself. There’s no 2B, but Spike Owen could play it in a pinch.

8) Arky Vaughan (.318/.406/.453, 136 OPS+, 75.6 WAR)

Bill James rates Vaughan as the 2nd best SS in history. He’s not wrong, he just values peak performance more than TCM, who’s more interested in career value. At his peak, Vaughan is probably the best offensive SS not referred to as A-Rod or Hans in baseball history.

In 1943, Leo Durocher fined and suspended Bobo Newsom for allegedly yelling at his rookie catcher, but also maybe for ignoring Leo’s advice about how to pitch to particular batters. According to Leo, “I told him it wasn’t far enough inside and he virtually told me I was a liar. Nobody can talk to me like that as long as I’m managing this club.” The rest of the team revolted, and initially refused to play the next day. Vaughan was the only one that held firm, telling him, “Here’s another uniform you can have.”

Durocher, incensed, made the questionable decision to call his entire team and all of the assembled media into the clubhouse for an open meeting. Durocher announced that Vaughan hadn’t been suspended, yelling, “He quit. He turned in his uniform and told me what I could do with it. I didn’t suspend him.” Branch Rickey quickly backed Durocher, and traded Newsom within a week to the Browns (where he balked at going, and suspiciously posted a 1-6 record with a 7.39 ERA before getting sold to Washington, where he promptly recovered). Vaughan’s sit down lasted one game. Despite reports that he and Durocher had buried the hatchet, Vaughan refused to report the next spring, talking about maybe playing the last 2-3 months of the season. Tellingly, he didn’t come back until 1947, when Leo Durocher was suspended for his association with known gamblers.

7) Luke Appling (.310/.399/.398, 113 OPS+, 2749 hits, 1319 runs, 69.3 WAR)

For whatever reason, The Common Man loves Luke Appling, the long-serving White Sox shortstop who must have been one of the most aggravating people ever. Pitchers hated him because he could foul balls off seemingly at a whim until he got a pitch he liked. He complained constantly of being hurt. And the White Sox must have had no idea what to do with him once he went into the Army in 1944, and told the AP, “he probably would not return to the major leagues as an active player after the war….He said he already had had trouble with his legs and felt they wouldn’t stand up under a major league season by the time he got out of the army.” Of course, the next year he boasted that “he plans to head straight for Chicago when the discharge ceremonies are completed.” He lasted another six seasons, including one of the greatest ever for a 42 year old in 1949, and told reporters on Opening Day of 1950, “You can’t go on forever in this league, but I’m not through yet.” Jeez, make up your mind already.

7a) Bill Dahlen (.272/.358/.382, 109 OPS+, 2461 hits, 1590 runs, 413 doubles, 548 stolen bases, 75.9 WAR)
Update: As Bill pointed out to TCM a few minutes ago, he completely whiffed on including Bad Bill Dahlen on his list. But in Bill's words, "it's ok, because so did the Hall of Fame." Dahlen put together roughly 17 excellent seasons in the 1890s and 1900s. He was a very good fielder with excellent range. At the end of his career, he took over the Brooklyn Superbas, which was not a prime gig. His job was in jeopardy in 1913 in part because of the team's fast drop to the second division and because

"He is not at all popular with the fans.... Dahlen, though unsociable and very silent, is an excellent judge of palyers and has made very few mistakes in picking his men. He has made a better showing than any previous handler of the Superbas in recent years and has built up the club into a storng outfit. It is almost certain, however, that he will go at the end of the season and some one else will take the thankless job of trying to manage the Superbas without having any real authority except to say who is going to pitch."

6) Robin Yount (.285/.342/.430, 115 OPS+, 3142 hits, 1632 runs, 1406 RBI, 583 doubles, 126 triples, 251 homers, 271 stolen bases, 76.9 WAR)

Most of the kids out there know that Yount moved off of shortstop midcareer to become a centerfielder. This has been used in the past to justify, say, calls for Derek Jeter to abandon the position. But rather than a lack of range, brought on by age, Yount had developed shoulder trouble in 1984 and the Brewers were worried about his ability to make the throw to 1B. Normally, you’d put a SS who can’t throw somewhere to minimize the strain on their arm. 2B maybe. Or 1B if they can hit a little. Those positions were taken, though, by Jim Gantner and Cecil Cooper respectively. 3B was locked down by fellow HOFer Paul Molitor. So the Brewers moved their superstar out to left field at the start of 1985. The results were promising,

“The life-long shortstop has taken to left field as if he had been playing there for a lifetime, or at least a career. Yount, who will be in left until his surgically repaired shoulder is ready to make the throw from shortstop, is running down fly balls with ease, cutting off balls headed for the gap and playing the wall as if he had a built in radar.”

The article goes out of its way to proclaim that this is a temporary situation, and that Yount would be back at short as soon as his arm could handle it. But Yount’s shoulder never really got better. He had more surgery that September, and the Brewers were pleased by the play of Earnest Riles, so they tentatively penciled him in for center field and the rest is history.

There are four players named Robin who have played in the Major Leagues. Two of them (Yount and Roberts) are in the Hall of Fame. Another (Ventura) was a terrific 3B for a long time and a borderline candidate. The other one is a journeyman named Robin Jennings. That’s weird, right? And good odds. If TCM and The Uncommon Wife have another kid, we’re naming him or her Robin. Couldn’t hurt.

5) Pee Wee Reese (.269/.366/.377, 98 OPS+, 66.7 WAR)

Reese gets mentioned in the same breath as Phil Rizzuto so much it’s hard to remember that Reese was actually a much, much, much better player. The two players were in the league together for 13 years. Reese was a better player in 10 of those years, finishing behind Rizzuto only in 1941 and 1950, and essentially tied with him in 1952. Reese had a lower batting average, but a higher OBP, SLG, stole more bases, and was productive for an extra year that Rizzuto wasn’t in the majors. Reese also missed three years for World War II. Reese was incredibly bitter about not being in the Hall of Fame until his induction in 1984, refusing even to attend his teammates’ inductions. He was right to be pissed and all, but that’s pretty cold.

4) Cal Ripken Jr. (.276/.340/.447, 112 OPS+, 3184 hits, 1647 runs, 1695 RBI, 603 doubles, 431 homers, 89.9 WAR)

Only two blemishes on Cal’s career:

One, he is the all time Major League leader (since they started keeping track in the 1930s) in grounding into double plays. Of course, to get to that point, he had to be great enough to stick around that long. Which he was. And he had to not be very fast or quick. Which he wasn’t. Despite his lack of quickness and speed there’s no denying that Cal played a terrific shortstop, allegedly because no one was as good at positioning themselves before the pitch as he was.

Two, it’s possible he may have hurt his team by refusing to take a day off every now and then:

Month AVG OBP SLG
Apr/Mar .274 .344 .446
May .263 .340 .453
June .294 .352 .460
July .286 .354 .466
Aug .275 .333 .433
Sept/Oct .262 .320 .428

Here are Cal’s rate stats by month: Obviously, by the end of the season, he was wearing down. In September, when he should have been facing inferior pitching, he had his worst months. The O’s lost the AL East in 1982 by a single game, but Cal hit .252/.333/.504 in September/October, so that didn’t hurt them. In ’83 they won it all, but then didn’t compete again until 1989. That year they finished 2 games out, and Cal hit .198/.284/.356 after September 1st. In 1992, the O’s finished 7 out, and while Ripken wasn’t responsible for all of that, his .222/.286/.301 line from July 1 onward didn’t help either. Is it any coincidence that his last two great seasons, 1994 and 1995, came when in shortened years? What he accomplished, on its surface, was wonderful. And The Common Man has no doubt that Cal did it with (mostly) the best of intentions. He was, after all, the best shortstop on the team, and maybe in the American League. But by not taking a day off now and then, did Cal cost his team games and a chance at the postseason when they needed him most? Is it blasphemous to say “maybe?”

3) George Davis (.295/.362/.405, 121 OPS+, 2665 hits, 1545 runs, 1440 RBI, 453 doubles, 619 stolen bases, 90.7 WAR)

Bill James has a terrific trip through Davis’s career in his New Historical Abstract that includes him rescuing women and children from a burning building, and a nice synopsis of what it was like working for a world class nitwit like Andrew Freedman, “Monte Ward quit as Giant manager as soon as he heard that Freedman was buying the team, leaving baseball to practice law…. Davis managed the Giants for 33 games and then quit in disgust…. Freedman would negotiate salaries with the players, and then reduce the salaries by fining the players hundreds of dollars for petty or unspecified offenses. In one game Freedman, wandering on the field to abuse the umpire, found himself encircled by angry fans.” Davis was inducted into the Hall with very little fanfare. Baseball had organized an effort to get a couple of additional 19th century players in the Hall during the late 1990s, and settled on Davis in 1998 and McPhee in 2000. There wasn’t much of a push to get anyone else in, as their lobbies have, understandably, diminished in voice over the last few decades.

2) Alex Rodriguez (.303/.387/.571, 2672 hits, 1757 runs, 1831 RBI, 474 doubles, 613 homers, 301 stolen bases, 101.9 WAR)

This is neither an endorsement of, nor an indictment of Alex Rodriguez…simply the truth. A-Rod may have been the single most gifted player ever to play the left side of the infield. Look at those numbers above and realize that he’s done all that before he turned 34. More than any other player, Alex Rodriguez had no need to seek out performance enhancers. But he did. And now we’re stuck with him. It’s likely that A-Rod won’t be on this list much longer. Three more years at the hot corner, and he’ll have played more games there than at SS.

1) Honus Wagner (.328/.391/.467, 150 OPS+, 3420 hits, 1739 runs, 1733 RBI, 643 doubles, 252 triples, 101 homers, 723 stolen bases, 134.5 WAR)

It’s almost less interesting to talk about the dominant guys, as you know a lot about them already and, frankly, The Common Man runs out of superlatives after a while. But if any player, other than Ruth, deserves all the compliments you can think of, it’s Wagner. In a fawning article from 1908, Pittsburgh Press columnist Gertrude Gordon runs through the normal platitudes about Wagner’s decency and humility, and fitness as an idol of youngsters, and tells of how Wagner isn’t willing to give her a traditional interview that day. But, she says,

“Without any thought of it, and with not the slightest effort, he teaches a lesson of contentment that it might be well to learn and learn well. The simple kindliness of his nature is evidenced in the way that every dog and child of the neighborhood fairly worships him, and that he never is too hurried to say at least a word of greeting to them. He fits perfectly into a place where nine men out of ten would be utterly spoiled. He gives the impression of meaning just what he says, and more, of saying just what he means.

When on my leaving he gave me a crushing hand clasp and said ‘Come back next spring and I will talk to you,’ I was glad, for I want to go back and see the automobile again, and the chickens and the dogs and horses, and that gentle courteous gentleman, Honus Wagner.”


   
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Al parecer el criterio utilizado fué el WAR para elaborar esta lista, por lo que Concepción no aparece, ya que su WAR fué inferior al de Jay Bell, que está en el puesto 40, por lo demás está bastante buena, por cierto, sabía que Luke Appling era el predecesor de Aparicio con los Chi-Sox; sabía también que estaba en Cooperstown, lo que no sabía era que fué tan buen bateador.


   
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mtortolero wrote: Esta me parece una tremenda lista aunque resiento que Concepcion no esta considerado en ella cuando deberia figurar en la ultima decena listada. El rticulo lo pueden encontrar aqui http://www.platoonadvantage.com/2010/12 ... stops.html

Manuel:

Revisando esta y otras listas (Bill James, Michael Hoban, baseball page, baseball about, bleacher report) mas los WAR acumulados en la carrera, observo lo siguiente:

(1) Honus Wagner encabeza todas las listas, por lo que puede ser considerado el mejor short stop de todos los tiempos
(2) Arky Vaughan y Cal Ripken son los unicos, aparte de Wagner, que aparecen en el top 10 en todas las listas, por lo que a esos tres se les puede considerar los "medallistas" de esta competencia
(3) En la mayoria de las listas aparecen tambien en el top 10 Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter Barry Larkin, Robin Yount, Joe Cronin, Luke Appling y George Davis. Con estos siete jugadores se completa el top 10 de los mejores short stops de todos los tiempos
(4) A esos diez le siguen una gran cantidad de short stops, encabezados por Lou Boudreau, Ozzie Smith, Bill Dahlen, Pee Wee Reese y Alan Trammell, junto a Ernie Banks, que muchos no lo incluyen por no considerarlo propiamente un short stop
(5) Aparicio, Concepcion y Vizquel aparecen entre los mejores 30 short stops de todos los tiempos en casi todas las listas que llegan hasta esas posiciones,pero Aparicio es el unico de los tres que baja del puesto 20 en algunas de esas listas (13 en la de Bill James y 19 en Baseball Page)


   
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Los autores del artículo sobre los 40 mejores short stops tuvieorn que reconocer la observación de Manuel sobre la ausencia de Concepción en esa lista. Otro punto que merece revisión son los comentarios sobre Vizquel de esos autores: "Si Vizquel entra al Salón de la Fama será el peor short stop en haberlo logrado". Este duro comentario se basa en las debilidades ofensivas de Vizquel (AVG, OBP, SLG), pero también ponen en duda sus habilidades defensivas. Aunque admiten que fue reconocido justamente en su momento cumbre, lo consideran inferior defensivamente a Ripken y Rizzuto.

Mucho hemos discutido sobre los méritos de Vizquel. Nadie pone en duda que no fue un gran bateador, aunque su OPS+ es comparable al de Ozzie Smith y Luis Aparicio y pienso que no se puede afirmar que Smith y Aparicio deberían estar fuera del Salón de la Fama por esa razón. Con respecto a sus habilidades defensivas, en 9 temporadas Vizquel estuvo entre los 5 primeros short stops de su liga en TZ (incluyendo tres temporadas como líder, en 1992, 2003 y 2007) y en 5 temporadas entre los 5 primeros en RF/9 (incluyendo una temporada como líder, la de 1991). En UZR, del que hay datos sólo a partir de 2002, estuvo entre los 5 primeros de su liga en 3 temporadas (incluyendo una como líder, la de 2007). Además, The Fielding Bible, que presenta los resultados de su encuesta sólo desde 2006,ha considerado que Vizquel estuvo entre los 10 mejores short stops defensivos de todo MLB entre 2006 y 2007. Si tomamos en cuenta todos los resultados mencionados, tenemos que Vizquel tuvo excelentes temporadas defensivas como short stop, según cinco criterios distintos, por lo menos en 13 temporadas (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 y 2009). Ademas, Vizquel y Ripken jugaron como short stops en la misma liga durante seis temporadas (1990- 1995) y si bien Ripken tuvo mejor TZ que él en la mayoría de esas temporadas, Vizquel lo superó abiertamente en RF/9 en todas ellas. No se si Vizquel debe estar o no en el Salón de la Fama, pero me parece que los comentarios de The Common Man (ESPN) son bastante injustos.


   
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Al tratar de determinar quienes han sido los mejores short stops en la historia del béisbol, creo que no se puede dejar de considerar a los mejores de las Ligas Negras, aunque por supuesto es difícil compararlos con los jugadores de MLB. En el Salón de la Fama hay dos short stops de las Ligas Negras: John Henry “Pop” Lloyd y Willie Wells.

Pop Lloyd, nativo de Florida, jugó entre 1906 y 1932 y se ganó el sobrenombre del “Wagner negro”. Babe Ruth y el mismo Honus Wagner, entre otros, reconocieron la extraordinaria calidad de Lloyd. Fue un gran bateador, sobre todo un buen bateador de promedio, y también un buen short stop defensivo y un buen corredor de bases. Ted Harlow, un cronista deportivo, opinó que Lloyd había sido el mejor jugador de béisbol en toda la historia del deporte, incluso superior a Babe Ruth. Aunque esas opiniones puedan tener o no fundamento, el simple hecho de compararlo con Wagner, el mejor short stop de todos los tiempos en MLB, sugiere que es probable que Lloyd deba tener un sitio entre los 10 mejores short stops de la historia.

Willie Wells, nativo de Texas, jugó entre 1924 y 1948. Fue un pelotero muy completo y destacó por su poder al bate, excelente defensa, velocidad e intensidad para jugar el béisbol. Dio consejos a Jackie Robinson sobre como jugar la segunda base y, en particular, sobre como realizar los double plays. Luke Appling fue quizás el mejor short stop de MLB en la época en la que Wells jugó y es posible que puedan ser comparables; por lo menos esa parece ser la opinión de The Baseball Page, quienes colocan a Appling en el puesto 12 y a Wells en el puesto 14 entre los 50 mejores short stops de todos los tiempos.

A pesar de las limitaciones para ubicar adecuadamente a estos jugadores en el ranking de los mejores short stops, creo que Lloyd debe estar entre los 10 mejores y Wells entre los 20 mejores.


   
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Si Vizquel llegara a entrar no sería el peor, Rabbit Maranville lo merecía mucho menos y allí está (Incluso Concepción fue mejor).

Sin embargo, creo que por los errores del pasado no se deberían premiar a otros en el futuro. En mi opinión, Concepción no merece estar en el salón de la fama y aunque Vizquel tiene un mejor caso (más basado en longevidad que en rendimiento, porque siendo claros Vizquel en su pico no fue ni de cerca tan bueno como Concepción) tampoco le daría mi voto. Debido a su defensiva percibida probablemente si termine entrando, pero lo puede costar más de lo que se piensa.


   
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En orden cronológico, estos son probablemente los mejores shortstops de cada época:

1891- 1892: Hughie Jennings
1893- 1897: Bill Dahlen
1898- 1916: Honus Wagner
1917- 1926: Dave Bancroft
1927- 1928: Travis Jackson
1929– 1931: Joe Cronin
1932- 1943: Arky Vaughan
1944- 1947: Luke Appling
1948- 1949: Lou Boudreau
1950- 1956: Pee Wee Reese
1957- 1960: Ernie Banks
1961- 1969: Luis Aparicio
1970- 1977: Mark Belanger/ David Concepción
1978- 1982: Robin Yount
1983- 1986: Cal Ripken
1987- 1997: Barry Larkin
1998- 2003: Alex Rodríguez
2004- 2010: Derek Jeter


   
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El "reinado" de Cal Ripken debería extenderse de 1983 a 1996 y posiblemente deba considerarse a Alex Rodríguez el mejor desde 1997 hasta 2003, por lo que Barry Larkin quedaría fuera de ese cuadro de honor.

Aprovecho esa corrección para mencionar que el "ranking", en términos de mayor número de temporadas como el mejor shortstop de MLB, sería el siguiente:

1. Honus Wagner (19)
2. Cal Ripken (14)
3. Arky Vaughan (10)
4. Luis Aparicio (9)
5. Mark Belanger/ David Concepción (8)
6. Alex Rodríguez/ Derek Jeter/ Pee Wee Reese (7)
9. Robin Yount/ Bill Dahlen (5)


   
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alberto silva wrote: Buscando lo que opinan otros sobre los mejores short stops en la historia del béisbol, consulté thebaseballpage.com, baseball.about.com, bleacherreport.com y Bill James, además de tomar en cuenta los WAR acumulados durante la carrera. Si bien la mayoría de los fuentes coincide en más o menos los 12 o 13 mejores, los nombres más frecuentes en el top 10 de todas las listas son los siguientes:

Honus Wagner
Alex Rodríguez
Arky Vaughan
Cal Ripken
Barry Larkin
Derek Jeter

Por favor Alex Rodriguez mejor SS????? Dios Mio, alguien me puede mencionar al menos una o dos buenas campañas a la defensiva como SS, no tomando en cuenta el Batting.

Pura intervención mediatica lo del Alex Rodriguez, sus deficiencia a la defensiva eran bien conocidas en Seattle y Texas, tanto así que posteriormente seria un 3B.Y por favor no mencione que fué por el cambio a los Yankees, esa no fué la razón, hoy en día Alex juega con mucha más confianza y mejor defensiva en 3B que lo que lo hizó en SS. La pregunta es cuando se retire lo recordaremos como un SS o como un 3B???


   
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NOquiero decir que Alex no sea un excelente jugador más a la ofensiva, para mí tal vez el mejor de todos los tiempos, porsupuesto ese es otro tema, pero OK se que por el WAR ALex seria el mejor SS en su epoca que jugó esa posición, pero como establecio en un principio el amigo Alberto, deberiamos tomar en cuanta más las habilidades defensivas en esta posición que el simple WAR total, porque de ser así alguien me podría explicar porque el A-Rod no juega actaulmente al SS???.Para los que les gusta las los numbers AROD ha jugado 1272 Games como SS y 1030 hasta ahora como 3B.Ahora la pregunta sería si Alex juega un promedio de 145 games por año y jugará el año que viene tendria alrededor de 1280 a 1290 games como 3B no deberia entonces tomarlo en cuenta en su carrera total más como un 3B que como SS???.


   
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GONZ wrote: Si Vizquel llegara a entrar no sería el peor, Rabbit Maranville lo merecía mucho menos y allí está (Incluso Concepción fue mejor).

Sin embargo, creo que por los errores del pasado no se deberían premiar a otros en el futuro. En mi opinión, Concepción no merece estar en el salón de la fama y aunque Vizquel tiene un mejor caso (más basado en longevidad que en rendimiento, porque siendo claros Vizquel en su pico no fue ni de cerca tan bueno como Concepción) tampoco le daría mi voto. Debido a su defensiva percibida probablemente si termine entrando, pero lo puede costar más de lo que se piensa.

Es decir de acuerdo a tí entonces un SS que tenga un mayor WAR tiene más posibilidad que Vizquel, haber alguien como haber, haber.............como Alan Trammel no te sirve como ejemplo ocupa el puesto 16 para los SS de todos los tiempos "encima de Aparicio" seguro que entra primero que Vizquel y merece más estar ahgí que nuestro Aparicio, Verdad??? o Barry Larkin en el "puesto 12" un gigante mucho mejor que el loco de Aparicio y 00 veces mejor que el "pelele" de Vizquel???? Es lamentable que los votantes de la BBWA piensen distinto será porque ellos ven algo diferente que nosoro no vemos?? Imposible si la sabermetrics lo dice debe ser asi no?? Gracias a Dios que los fans de los Sabermetrics no son votantes o por lo menos no son la mayoria en todos los casos, porque si el Baseball fuera todo lo que dijera las Sabermetrics fuera el deporte más aburrido y monotomo del mundo, no habrian sorpresas y los jugadores que aportaron algo que las sabermetrics no pueden medir tiene su oportunidad tambien.Ah y gracias a Dios para compañero que nada estamos hablando de los SS, porque si hablamos de otras posiciones más de uno va a salir con las tablas en la cabeza no solo por lo que dicen la sabermetrics sino lo que opinan los votantes de HOF.


   
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